Tuesday, March 18, 2008

The False Apostle Eric Von Anderseck

I want to start my study with a classic example of a non-christian cult. Eric Von Anderseck, with his wife Maria, is the leader of a cult called Second Eighth Week Ministries. Confused yet? Don't worry you will be even more confused as we get into this false apostle and the message he is trying to spread. I will now post an excerpt froma study done by Matt Slick entitled "Why write about Eric Von Anderseck".

Why write about the apostle Eric
It is necessary to write about the apostle Eric vonAnderseck because he is a self proclaimed apostle of God who says he is commissioned by God to reveal the "true and restored" gospel to the North American continent. Since, one of the purposes of CARM is to expose false teachers, to document what it is they teach, and compare it to scripture, it is necessary that I write about yet another false teacher surfacing on the web. I first encountered the teachings of Eric VonAnderseck on an Internet chat program called paltalk. Immediately warning flags went up as I listened to the teachings about special knowledge, about "the apostle Eric" being the apostle to the North American continent, about a preexistence, and about how all other churches are false -- except his. This kind of message about him being sent by God to "restore the truth" is typical among cult groups. You see, in order for their teaching to flourish, they must first claim that the "true" teachings of the Christian Church have been lost and that "they" are the ones who are sent to reveal what God "really" wants Christians to know in these last days. This is no different with the apostle Eric vonAnderseck who claims to not only have had many visitations from angels, but also to be the one who is restoring the truth to the North American Continent. He claims to have been the 7th person who was standing in a line of spirits in the preexistence as they were being prepared to go to earth. He claims that he heard a voice asking "Who will go for Me?" He volunteered to go and an angel then took him to the front of the line and it was proclaimed that he would be used in the last days to reveal the truth. Of course, his claims violate the biblical teaching against a pre-existence (1 Cor. 15:46) and it falsely assumes that an apostasy has occurred (2 Thess. 2) -- which hasn't happened yet. We know that the apostasy spoken about in 2 Thessalonians is related to the arrival of the antichrist and he has not yet arrived. Since he has produced a lot of information and since organizations are now finally beginning to expose him, he has reconstructed his web sites and posted a very strict copyright policy in an attempt to prevent any quotations of his material being used in any manner. He is also trying to prevent any critics of his writings from retaining any copies of his material for research purposes. Penalty of law is also mentioned. Is this the methodology of someone with the truth? Or is it the methodology of someone with something to hide and who wants to be in as much control as possible? Basically, the apostle Eric vonAnderseck is trying to prevent even the "fair use" of material by which he might be examined. Of course, copyright laws are Federal level laws and it is very costly to initiate a Federal lawsuit which, in the case of fair use laws and quotes and commentary, wouldn't even make it to Federal Court. It seems that the apostle Eric vonAnderseck just doesn't want his information challenged in any way. He wants to be able to teach whatever he wants without anyone criticizing him or comparing his teachings to the Bible. What is he afraid of? This reminds me of the various mind control techniques used in some cult groups where the leadership attempts to retain strict control over what is said and done and then they often tell their members that if they leave their group, they are in danger of damnation. After having spoken to several ex members of his group, I know that this is what is happening there. In addition, the apostle Eric vonAnderseck is attempting to begin teaching on the Internet under extremely controlled conditions. If you are to go to Live Q&A with Apostle Eric, you would see the restrictive rules he has laid out. He apparently wants to control very precisely any of his so-called teaching sessions. He will not allow any debate or discussion about what he teaches. This is a sign that he is afraid of open discussion and afraid to be challenged. This way, he can attempt to minimalize the damage that might be done by people asking intelligent and biblical questions as they compare his teachings to God's word.

I know this is a long post and I want to thank Matt for permission to use his paper. My next post will deal with people who have broken away from this false apostle, most of their stories are very chilling and you will see how much influence Satan has placed in this man.

10 comments:

Steve Page said...

I would like permission to place the articles in your blog on a web page I'm making.

http://heforgives.org/Apostle_Eric_the_Apostate_apostle.html

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Johnny said...

Hi,I am Johny Rahul ...I had a conversation with erics spouse apostle maria somedays ago and I had exposed her.So I would like to share the comments with you

Johnny said...

Maria VonAnderseck:--- hello Johnny -- in response to this link -- you cannot buid with the knowledge on this site -- this knowledge still reflects the current Christian culture -- it is not restored knowledge and it cannot be used to train the Body. Thank you for sharing.

Johnny Rahul: why do u say so? and what makes u think in that case?

Maria VonAnderseck: I'd like to suggest that you read the lessons on our site -- God is using truth to bind the Body together -- God is using Apostle Eric to give the truth to the Body -- God is using the restored priesthood to make the people holy to Him --- these things are absent from among your apostles -- they may be called of God, but they must come for their cleansing to prepare themselves -- right now they are offering polluted bread to the people, which oversight god will forgive if they amend their ways.

Maria VonAnderseck: There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ -- man cannot make his own way

(Note this She means to say that only her group and her ministry is washed in the blood of the Lord Jesus and if not then why on earth did she had to say indirectly to or group that “There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ” )

Johnny said...

Johnny Rahul: Yeah we know that man cannot make a way and our group is completely aware of that what do u mean by that when u said "There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ -- man cannot make his own way" do u think we are not washed by the blood of the Lord Jesus

Maria VonAnderseck you say things like "washed by the blood of the lamb" and you have no idea of its meaning

• you are not providing restored teaching to the body .That group is not providing true apostolic leadership the grace is absent it is time to repent and turn away from that wickedness
(She means to say that our group lacks the apostolic foundation..I guess it is she who needs to know what exactly does she mean by apostolic foundation)

Johnny Rahul: Well i am well aware of the idea of the meaning..What do u mean that we are not providing restored teaching to the body...Well my group is based on true apostleship

Johnny Rahul: as far as ur group is being concerned.Emphasis is being laid on apostle eric teachings (Now who is apostle eric..Eric is her spouse)

Maria VonAnderseck you cannot mix the old with the new the emphasis cannot be placed on apostle eric's teaching and then you go and mix that teaching with other teaching that will pollute the bread of Christ.

• Johnny Rahul: we arent polluting the bread of the Lord Jesus the thing is u people tend to be superior u all think that u all are superior to oter churches no way

Maria VonAnderseck also.............. If you say that you are emphasizing A Eric's teaching then where is your altar -- you have not yet built the altar of Christ, you cannot list the 12 elements and say to me their meanings, nor can you offer sacrifices upon that altar -- God has restored the priesthood through A Eric --- why are you not functioning in your priesthood yet (She means to say that God has restored priesthood only thru apostle eric.....No then on that case who are we..Arent we not priests according to the verse 1Peter 3:9)

Johnny Rahul: for ur kind information we are all are priests thru christ jesus

Maria VonAnderseck where grace is in the heart the word "superior" is not in the mind

Johnny Rahul: tell me in that case why is that

Maria VonAnderseck: no --- you are not cleansed from false doctrine. (no what type of false doctrine she means by...Which can be clearly pinpointed that she means to say that her doctrine is true and rest of the foundational doctrines are false)

Johnny Rahul: u all arent moving
Maria VonAnderseck: no --- you are no priest to the Lord

Johnny Rahul: in the gifts of the holy spirit spirit direction tell me pl read the book of

Maria VonAnderseck: you must come to A. Eric for your cleasning -- this you refuse -- so God will also refuse you (pl note this down she means to say that eric can cleanse me...lolllllllllllllllllllll)

Johnny Rahul: 1 peter 3:9 whattttttttttt lollllllllllll my goodness (the reason why did i say my goodness was she means to say that eric can cleanse me) and why did i had to point out the verse 1 peter 3:9 I was to tell her that we are called royal priesthood as she claims that only her spouse is a priest)

Johnny said...

Maria VonAnderseck: you must first be cleansed before you can function in our priesthood (Note this what did she say that i must be cleansed before i can function in her priesthood)

Johnny Rahul: it is only theblood Lord Jesus who can wash our sins
Maria VonAnderseck: your group may be well intentioned but it is void of the Spirit and possesses no life (Sorry our group is being led by the spirit and they are highly inspired by the Holy Ghost)

Johnny Rahul: wrong

Maria VonAnderseck: you are not being washed

Johnny Rahul: what

Maria VonAnderseck: you prefer the old to the new and you are mixing the leaven into your doctrine
Johnny Rahul: maria u are talking about apples and pineapples

Maria VonAnderseck: kindly read the lessons we have provided for you --- that is the purpose of God's blessing -- for you to partake
Johnny Rahul: yes i did read some of it but i am not that convived ..sorry convinced

• Maria VonAnderseck: for you to benefit you must remove the shoes of man's aspiration I ask that you not contact me again until you have repented and turned to the Lord with a pure heart

Johnny Rahul: Sorry u r wrong prior to this u told me that eric should purify me and now u claim that i need no mans apriciation my oh my its done .I am a child of God pl read Galtions 3:26,John 1:13

Maria VonAnderseck: the answer to your confusion is in the lessons --- sorry there are no short cuts if you desire your confusion then God will give you over to your derision

Johnny Rahul: yeah i know that there are no short cuts perhaps u arent aware what is the exact meaning of being washed in the blood of the Lord Jesus

Maria VonAnderseck: your understanding is clouded and that is another evidence of the spirit you are working with -- it is unclean (What type of spirit)
Johnny Rahul: lol what do u mean by unclean how on earth can u say that

Maria VonAnderseck: It is necessary for you to study the lessons -- all your questions are answered there -- the Spirit of God will minister to you when you seek Him

Johnny Rahul: that being when childrens of God are being led by the spirit can come into such terms
Maria VonAnderseck: you need to be cleansed of all false doctrine --- this is the wisdom of God

Johnny Rahul: no need my answers are found in the bible as i seek Gods word and his face his spirit guides me

Maria VonAnderseck: first things first -- before you can be led by the Spirit you need to be cleansed of false doctrine -- you believe the Spirit is leading you but it is a seducing spirit (pl read this carefully what did she mean)
Johnny Rahul: Wrong u are not aware of what u are saying
Maria VonAnderseck: you cannot tell the diffence between the aspiration of a seducing spirit and the inspiration of grace --- that is a sign that you are in dirission

Johnny Rahul: pl dont say such things perhaps u are being led into wrong basis of teachings

Maria VonAnderseck: you are welcome to contact me again when you have a sincere heart

Johnny Rahul: i mean wrong basis hahaaahh sorry

And after the conversation she unfrinded me and blocked me so u pl decide which one of us is right....I don’t mean to say that I am entirely right...If I am wrong then kindly pl do correct me....

Unknown said...

Maria VonAnderseck is my sister. She was raised Roman Catholic. My fear is that she has been brainwashed by her husband, Eric. I love her dearly, and I know she wants to do the right thing for the Lord. However, she has given up her mind to her husband. Please pray for her. She was always such a sweet and kind girl. She is great mother with honorable family values. Let's ask for God's help on this.

Unknown said...

Correction to my last comment. Paul is my husband. I forgot I created the gmail account in his name. Mary is my sister, not his.

Unknown said...

I have a friend that is also deceived and trapped in this cult and false teachings of Eric von Anderseck.

What is your name?

SM said...

I don't know who Maria's sister is, but I can tell you stories of growing up across the street from this family. Before they changed their last name to VonAnderseck. I went to school with these kids. And I wasn't allowed inside their house.